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Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Jakeman, Jan 13, 2003.

  1. Strader

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    I haven't heard them use that line for Iraq. Have they? Yes, it's pretty lame applying that towards too many things.
     
  2. Jakeman

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    I thought Bush said Saddam is a target of our war on terrorism.
     
  3. SuperStar

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    I thought i heard he was housing the weapons that supply them. heh.
     
  4. Strader

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    I thought... *poof!!*

    *brain explodes* :retard:
     
  5. MisterHalleck

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    who cares? Saddam's crazy and should be killed.
     
  6. Haite

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    Why fight for control of oil when hybrid cars are hitting the roads now? 50 years from now, all the oil-rich nations are going to be bankrupt and no closer to being first-world countries than they are currently.
     
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    you have "first-world" confused with something else- "first world" is a throwback to the cold war. 1st world means NATO, 2nd world means Warsaw Pact nations, and Third World refers to any country not worth allying with.
     
  8. Haite

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    What...? The three-world system is how you classify nations according to wealth, NATO or the Warsaw Pact has nothing to do with it.
     
  9. kraahl

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    Well, actually no. Norway has oil, and they are putting away huge amount of money, in a few years the income from interest will equal what they make on the oil today.
    I´m not sure how this would work, either they have been doing this for a long time or they have got very good interest on their money.
    I cannot verify this data, I just remember reading to a few years ago.
     
  10. Elbereth

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    Actually MisterHalleck is correct. That is how the terms were originally defined. There is no second world anymore. Third world has become the way of describing all of the poor countries of the world.
     
  11. kraahl

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    Edit:
    Didn´t see Elbereth´s post

    It might not have anything to do with the Nato or the warsaw pact, but the first world is the US an western europe (many nato-members there) and the second world is eastern europe and parts of asia. (many warsaw pact members there).
    I don´t know how this system first started, but today both the economical and political theories match quite good.
     
  12. kraahl

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    I just read this in one of the leading swedish newspapers, I translate:
    "The world famous peace scientist Johan Galtung has conducted special studies of the rise and fall of empires. 1980 he foresaw the fall of the Soviet union. Now he says that the US will meet the same fait in 25 years. Or rather 20 years, if Bush get reelected."

    "Clinton was an A-student, Bush: C minus"

    "The present president ar characterised by a dangerous combination of great energy and stupidity"

    I don´t think this will happen, but people laughed at him back in 1980 and he was only of by a couple of months off.
    Thoughts?
     
  13. Strader

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    The only possible fall I can see for the US in the next quarter century would be a nuclear/biological one. The people in the US are content compared to those of the former Soviet Union so I don't see anyone rebelling.

    Student grades don't affect a president's abilities that much. They have advisors and secondly there is a lot of things in life that you never learn in the classroom. There are millionaires who never went to high school and do very well. The same is possible for a president.
     
  14. Elbereth

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    Always look at the advisors - the president is almost a figurehead. He gets to make the final decision - from the choices given to him by his advisors. That was one of Clinton's problems, he was smart, and thought he knew more than his advisors. He was wrong. One guy can't know more about every subject than a group of advisors who are specialists in their respective fields. I think President Bush knows this. ;)
     
  15. kraahl

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    This scientist just don´t spit out thoeries like a machine gun, he knows a lot more about this then me and you. I don´t see anyone rebelling either, and I have a hard time thinking it might happen.


    It usually serves as some sort of indications of intellectual capacity, there are exceptions, of coarse...
     
  16. kraahl

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    Doesn´t Bush choose his advisors?
     
  17. Haite

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    Yes he does, I don't think that changes anything. They're pretty unbiased, and required to be by law. My respect for Rumsfeld was down but it is slowly coming back up. Colin Powell and Condi Rice are great politicians.
     
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  20. Jakeman

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    i hope not, considering the evidence is currently circumstantial and hasn't been completely analyzed yet.

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