Wow, this thread went to hell in a hurry. Some various 2 cents... Iraq: I am on the fence here. Saddam was an evil man who needed to be removed, and I am happy he is out of power. But it is unclear (at least to me) whether he was really that big of a threat to anyone but his own people. The next weapon of mass destruction they find will be the first one, and his links to the 9/11 terrorists are tenuous. Is it good Saddam is gone? Yes. Was it worth the lives we've lost and $150 B (and counting) we've spent? Perhaps not. Those lives and money could have been put to good use here on our own soil. Taxes: Of course the richest people contribute the most total income tax revenue. (Speaking of the USA here). It is a simplisitic approximation, but not a bad one, that the richest 5% of the population possesses 95% of the country's wealth. Even in a flat tax scenario the upper class would therefore contribute a disproportionate amount of income tax revenue. But the true tax burden to the individual should be expressed as a percentage of that individual's income, not as total dollars. And to be fair you should consider more than just income tax. You also need to figure in things like sales tax and property tax, which as a rule pull a higher percentage out of poor incomes than they do rich ones. When you take all things into account, the total tax burden (not just income tax) expressed as a percentage of total income is relatively equal from bottom to top. Federal income tax cuts and raises make for good sound bites and campaign ploys, not to mention fodder for loud-mouth conservative radio hosts and authors (read: lying demagogues), but are really only a fraction of the total picture. Howard Dean: Um, what to say here? I am a Democrat, but this guy is like chewing on aluminum foil. The jury is still out on this one, but I will be surprised if he can knock Bush out of his seat. There are better candidates in the running, Leiberman for one, but Dean will most likely get the nomination. The Bush/Dean debates should be entertaining at least.