Well, I did a bit more messing around thatn I would like, but I've ended up with a mage :-). His name is Neretla (Alteren backwards). I'm having SO MUCH fun with him. I've been looking at the specs on the forums, and there's actually a guide with some levelign up specs that I like. My goals, for endgame, are never goign to be large-scale rading. I'll be doing mostly 5-10 man and PVP. I'm in a tiny little guild with some buddies from when I first played (I'll sign up for MSC events if you guys need help and would take me :-). Sorry about not actually being in MSC.), and the other mage is a fire spec. I figured it might be a good idea for me to do something in the Frost area as I couldn't think of a better way to pick between fire and Frosts. Given what I've said I'll be doing, do you guys have any suggestions for a build that might work for me? Thanks.