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Discussion in 'MSC Clan' started by aleldtritch, Nov 3, 2001.

  1. aleldtritch

    aleldtritch Peasant

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    i'd like to see someone beat 7 comps without cheating (besides the cheat codes i was also referring to the trick where you attack a building with a "worker" and the computer always uses all of their workers to chase it away)
    ...i've beaten 5 solo but 6 and 7 just overwhelm me
     
  2. charlybrown

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    Well I do see a difference when I create a game with comps and my friend does, he's got more cache on cpu, and he always lose against comps when he creates. Well to a certain degree, the computer will slow down the process, usually they're base are not well protected after, but increase in number of computer players decrease each computer's level, that's observable.
     
  3. Spike

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    I have beaten 7 comps without cheating.
     

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  4. Haite

    Haite Forum Moderator

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    I ought to try that, but comps are boring :(...

    --Haite
     
  5. Spike

    Spike Banned

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    Comps are the best. You dont have to worry about others CHEATING! Cheaters just ruin the game for everyone. Also, everyone want to play on fastest, I hate fastest.
     
  6. charlybrown

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    as long as you don't do anything, comps aren't smart enough to do anything neither...
     
  7. Haite

    Haite Forum Moderator

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    Ya, comps are dumb.

    I like to play on Fast too.

    --Haite
     
  8. Grizzly

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    Same here, but I've never beaten 7 without Zerg. Can you do it with Toss/Terran?
     
  9. Haite

    Haite Forum Moderator

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    Heh, you insult my Zerg? They're my best race!

    --Haite
     
  10. Autolycus

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    that doesnt mean the computer isnt completely retarded with them
     
  11. Grizzly

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    No, no, no, I mean beat 7 computers if you are using Toss or Terran.

    It's easier to take on a large number of computers if you are Zerg because of the price:quantity ratio.
     
  12. Haite

    Haite Forum Moderator

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    I don't think price/quantity has anything to do with it. Zerg units have probably the best AI of all the races, thus are the best at macro-management. Terrans have THE worst AI, but they can be the strongest race by far when effectively micro-ed with secondary techniques and target queueing. Protoss are great at speed and efficiency, they can level an entire base or wipe out an entire attack force in seconds if properly utilized, due to the massive damage of their units. I don't think it'd be significantly harder to take on many comps at once depending on race...

    Btw, are we talking FFA or Melee rules? If it's FFA the comps will fight each other, but Melee they all gang up on you... I could easily win a 7 comp game on FFA and post a screenshot (not saying any of you are lying, just stating the obvious).

    Lastly, here's several replays of me and charly. Some I win, some he wins, it's pretty even. I need work on terran, so if anyone's really knowledgeable, spill some info, otherwise I'll keep reading up at sclegacy...

    http://www.macintoxication.com/files/replays.zip

    --Haite
     
  13. Grizzly

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    Umm...I have no idea what you are talking about.

    I was asking Spike if he could beat 7 computers without using Zerg.
     
  14. Haite

    Haite Forum Moderator

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    ...and I'm saying that I don't see why using a different race would make much a difference, assuming you have equal skill and proficiency with all 3. We're only human though..

    My point is that someone else could come along and just as easily say "How can you beat 7 comps without using Protoss? It's impossible with Zerg or Terran!".

    --Haite
     
  15. cowofwar

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    Toss and terran are MUCH more difficult than zerg as comp controlled players.
     
  16. Haite

    Haite Forum Moderator

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    No, what Grizzly means is try fighting 7 comps when YOU are any race other then Zerg...

    --Haite
     
  17. cowofwar

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    Oh. That depends if it's a mucho money map and if it's on ffa or melee.
     
  18. Spike

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    Whew, lot of talk there Haite. For someone who hasnt tried it.

    Zerg may be the easiest because I think they got the best defenses in Spore/Sunken Colonies. I remember it being pretty difficult (this was 2.5 years ago). The main difficult part was of course - TANKS. I had to limit it to only one Terran enemy. Two Terrans just was too difficult. Id have to try Terran and/or Toss to see how they would be. Ill try that soon.

    Of course its Melee. Yeesh. The post was me against 7, not me and 7 others. It was also the usual Big Game Hunters Map. Maps that arnt mucho-money maps are just too easy because the computer runs out of money and dies.
     
  19. Spike

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    Oh I also did do Terran and Protoss against 7, but they were against an all 7 Protoss force. I know, this is too easy since Protoss is so easily blocked, so this doesnt count anything.
     
  20. charlybrown

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    mucho money is easy for you as well, since you can just stay in your corner and get defense upupup, playing against comp is mainly the defense and who gets to consume less mineral. As I said more computer there are, more dumb they are, as long as you can handly the initial rush with 20 sunkens, you can get the win I suppose, but computer is still computer, all you have to do is to find the pattern they use, and counter their weakness. Fighting human become a lot less teadious, because you get the challenge of been able to fighting like a man.
     

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