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Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Jakeman, Jan 15, 2005.

  1. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    flog me!

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    hehe, Jake just likes to be spanked.
     
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    Arrgh... I'm taking my first thermodynamics class right now. It's so easy... the professor has never taught a class before and the TA just got back from France. wunderbar.

    (I'm 19, sophomore at UCLA)

    My stance is that unfortunately, ideas such as macroevolution and the big bang don't have much impact on the way humans live... it's not as if knowing where the universe came from will help General Motors to make a better car. Being such, I say it falls out of the realm of true science and into the realm of unverifiable theories, and as a result, is more a philosophical issue and not a scientific one. And if the question is unanswerable with current technology, I say stop asking the question... it hurts my ears
     
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    I think that is what I wanted to get around to eventually...sometime....maybe......just give me some time. lol.
     
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    What kind of bullcrap is that? You can never ever know if sience that has no worth today has any worth tomorrow. 300 years from now understanding stuff like the big bang can help General Motors make much cooler spaceships. We don´t know.
    There are lots and lots of math that has no valid use today, but it can have tomorrow.
    How can you say it´s not true science? I`m certain it falls under the defination.

    Also, nothing can be proven, but it can be made likely. That is also possible with such things as the big bang..
     
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    Science cannot prove anything 100%. Other methodologies can, like faith.
     
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    Hmm... I learned about it in 4th grade. what school did you go to?

    faith can't prove anything 100% either, that's why it is faith :D
     
  8. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    Enslen Elementary, Roosevelt Junior High, Modesto High (9th grade), Downey High.

    More like faith doesn't require proof. It picks up where science cannot go. Science and faith supplement each other.
     
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    I have Faith that all sickness will just disappear one day!! Our faith will do it for us. Who needs stinking mad scientists to do stupid crap like creating vaccines, medicines, and cures...
     
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    Well actually we went a long time without them. It's also contributed to creating supergerms. Besides no medicine would make us tougher- what happened to survival of the fittest? I think Darwin would agree.
    *sarcasm*
     
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    it is kinda nice to extend the life expectancy of humans to the mid 70's... which would not have been possible without science.

    During the Roman Empire, Romans had a approximate life expectancy of 22 to 25 years. In 1900, the world life expectancy was approximately 30 years and in 1985 it was about 62 years, just one year short of today's life expectancy.

    Currently, worldwide the average life span for both sexes combined is 63 years, for males it's 61 years and for females it's 65 years. In developed countries the average is higher due to better health care and living conditions. In the US the average for all people is 76.5, for males it's 73.6 and for females it's 79.4. African countries have some of the lowest life expectancies in the world. Residents of Zambia, Mozambique and Malawi can expect to live only 37 to 38 years

    http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa042000a.htm?once=true&iam=mt&terms=+average++life++span
     
  12. Jakeman

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    Yay for tangents!

    Like science, faith can also be helpful.
     
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    lol, I was saying we do need it. Believe me I know the stats and the rampant disease that runs unchecked in 3rd worldcountries even now. I was just joking around. You have to excuse me, my humor leaves a lot to be desired.
     
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    Like Faith Hill? That is some Faith I'd like to have. ha ha ah ahha ah
     
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    lol... I was just tossing in some unrelated information :) <Bad Gilg...>
     
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    Good, bad, we all die eventually... Why not just enjoy the time we have?
     
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    Question:

    I haven't heard this one yet, but I was wondering how the faithful masses explain away millions of years of evolutionary development from Australiopithicus and Cro-Magnon man, through Neanderthal, and into modern homo erectus and homo sapiens...

    Here is the correct evolutionary tree of modern humans:
    1 Australopithecus afarensis
    2 Australopithecus africanus
    3 Australopithecus robustus
    4 Homo habilis
    5 Homo erectus
    6 Homo sapiens neanderthal
    7 Homo sapiens cro-magnon
    8 Homo sapiens sapiens
     

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