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Patch 2.3 Mage Changes

Discussion in 'Game Help' started by Lurk, Sep 26, 2007.

  1. Lurk

    Lurk Peasant and Donator

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    Blue keeps dropping hints at mage changes in the next patch. Here is what I've seen so far. (and yes it's a boring day at work):

    1. 10% Damage Tax to Imp Frostbolt/Imp Fireball is gone. :eek: :banana:

    2. Ritual of Refreshment for food/water distribution, mage version of the Soulwell. (I personally hope it looks like a hot dog cart. In fact, I hope the food you get by clicking it IS actually a hot dog. And a soda.)

    3. Arcane Meditation being buffed to allow 10/20/30% of mana regen to continue while casting. (Nice little buff for Arc mages.)

    4. Evocation no longer spirit based. Instead, it will regen 15% of your total mana every 2 seconds. (At first blush this seems good, but I think it's a nerf. 8 seconds of Evoc = 60% of your total mana. I could probably do better with some swappable spirit gear. On the other hand, if it means they'll stop wasting item budget on Spirit for DPS caster items, I'm all for it.)
     
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  2. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    MAGE THREADS FTW

    omg omg omg omg

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    I know the ritual of souls gives out a limited number of stones. I assume the water well will be limited too. I might still end up bringing 50 stacks of water to every raid. I like to give all mana users 4 stacks so they don't bother me in the middle of the raid. And even then I still get a few people asking for more.

    I can already nuke constantly with consumables. This will just save me some money on mana pots.

    I expect that will be a buff for most mages who don't bother with evocation gear. I don't have spirit gear.
     
  3. Lurk

    Lurk Peasant and Donator

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    Jebus. I give out 2 stacks to mana users and no one bothers me. Tell them they don't have to drink after every trash pull. Plus, are you the only mage in your raid?

    Make two hot dog carts if you want.



    Ok I will call the Blizz devs and let them know that YOU don't need this change, so they should remove it. :p

    I suspect it's meant to help out predominantly Arcane builds. Frost is fairly mana efficient as it is. Even so, don't look a gift horse in the mouth.



    Noob.
     
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    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    I'm not the only mage, but mages are lazy and so are the mana users. I just assume no one else is giving out water and that those who need water aren't going to ask me until after we start pulling. So I dump ass loads of water on everyone whether they ask me or not. This is a mentality I developed in my MC raiding days, and most people appreciate me for it so I keep doing it.
     
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    Detect Magic is being removed. Enemy buffs will always be visible to all players.
     
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    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    how will i mark my sheep :cry:
     
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    Lurk Peasant and Donator

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    "Jaden sheep star. Firemane sheep circle."

    I am gonna miss the little swirly graphic thing though.
     
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    :(
     
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    lol thats a paladin buff.
     
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    Huh? Detect Magic is a mage spell...
     
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    yes but polymorph -> detect magic spam was essentially 50% dispel resistance on sheep vs paladins since cleanse only removes 1 debuff.
     
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    I don't follow. Does the removal of detect magic affect cleansing in some way? The point about 50% spell resistance doesn't make sense to me.
     
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    cleanse removes one magic debuff randomly, with both poly and detect magic on the target you halve their chance of cleansing the polymorph. this is another reason frost mages are such a huge headache in arenas, you end up with winter's chill stacked to 5 and detect magic up on a sheep and it takes 9 years to dispel it.
     
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    Oh, that is only for PvP.

    PvP sucks. =\
     
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    pve sucks!
     
  16. Lurk

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    Ah now I follow. Yeah actually I think this was the main reason DM is being removed. The mage forums are already bitching about it like they just got nerfed or something.

    Pretty sure it was an unintended use of DM.
     
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    Official PTR Patch notes:

    Arcane Intellect and Arcane Brilliance mana costs reduced. (woot)

    Arcane Meditation (Arcane) increased to 10/20/30% mana regeneration.

    Detect Magic removed. All players may now see their target's beneficial effects at all times.

    Evocation now regenerates 15% of total mana every 2 seconds rather than increase Spirit based regeneration.

    Fire Ward and Frost Ward now gain additional benefit from spell damage bonuses. Base absorb values of ranks 5 and 6 have been reduced.

    Hypothermia duration increased to 45 sec. (lawlz)

    Ice Barrier now gains additional benefit from spell damage bonuses. Base absorb values of ranks 5 and 6 have been reduced.

    Improved Fireball: The reduction in damage coefficient caused by this talent has been removed.

    Improved Frostbolt: The reduction in damage coefficient caused by this talent has been removed.

    Portal Spells: Portal spells to capital cities can no longer be cast in battlegrounds.

    Remove Curse range increased to 40 yards.

    (NEW SPELL) Ritual of Refreshment available on trainers at level 70.
     
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    I wonder why. Oh well, cold snap with iceblock will still be plenty useful.
     
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    At getting the other clothies killed. :p

    Probably they thought it was still too powerful in arenas.
     
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    I don't iceblock into other dps. If I pull agro I blink past the mob back to the tank, as it should be.

    ugh, nerfing a skill for a specific application?
     

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