he gave me a vampire gaze and swordguard. *me bows to charly* though, charly, i'm gonna stick with my cranite vomir. it kills so much faster. it's a combination of things. first, it has much faster attack speed, plus is does -70 monster defense per hit (which is basically progressive attack rating so i hit every time). so with me attacking insanely fast and landing every hit the elemental damage on my tiamat's rebuke totally rapes everything. and the 35% slow target and -10% physical damage taken is nice too. so if you want your swordguard back you can have it. i just need Telling of Beads to complete my disciple set and my barb will own all.