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Discussion in 'MSC Clan' started by Lurk, Jul 21, 2006.

  1. Lurk

    Lurk Peasant and Donator

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    Does this mean Auto will finally stop bitching about how Alliance is EZ Mode? Let's find out...

    http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/classcombo.html

    Plus, I can't wait to put a Totem forest around the flag in WSG and see how horde likes it for a change.

    Now just give Draenei Warstomp and PvP might actually start to be balanced.
     
  2. MisterHalleck

    MisterHalleck Peasant

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    wow. Pallies + shamans in the same raid = wtfpwnnaxx
     
  3. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    Now the flames will be about racials. :laugh:

    (this is a really bad idea IMO)
     
  4. Autolycus

    Autolycus Forum Moderator

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    -yes, that's exactly what that means. i always said i'd trade windfury for 10% stats, +250 AP, and -30% threat

    -who cares? 5 hp. a level 1 could kill them, and now we have blessing of freedom which gets you wayy out of the eartbind pulse before it gets purged.

    -what?
     
  5. Calendryll

    Calendryll MSC Commander and Donator

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    3 or 4 tauren surrounding a few alliance = pwnage. Warstomp is a major deciding factor in many of the battles I've been in.
     
  6. Lurk

    Lurk Peasant and Donator

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    Yeeesss. And now they'll have unkillable healers with a mana drain and AOE silence. :p
     
  7. Lurk

    Lurk Peasant and Donator

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    Actually I think it's a long overdue idea. I'm busting on Auto a little bit, but the truth is the PvE imbalance between pallies and shamans is very real. Raid-wide blessings are huge. The only real worry at this point is whether this will marginalize the shaman class, but it's impossible to tell that without seeing all of the other changes in store for the expansion.
     
  8. Autolycus

    Autolycus Forum Moderator

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    yeah, see how you like it. :noid:
     
  9. Lurk

    Lurk Peasant and Donator

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    Our unkillable healers have diplomacy and a mace bonus. Yeah, pretty equal.
     
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    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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  11. Autolycus

    Autolycus Forum Moderator

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    yeah the endgame isnt a rep grind or anything, diplomacy might as well be +10% experience.

    also the sword + mace bonus is pretty pimp for melee classes. reduces glancing blows on raid bosses by a shitload(thats my scientific term for it, ok?). in fact the best dagger rogue raid dps belt in the game is the blue from dire maul with +5 daggers. (mugger's belt)

    sup spreadsheet, in case anybody wanted evidence to the +skills claim:

    http://www.rwx.ca/websight/wow/combat_daggers_v1_08.xls
     
  12. Lurk

    Lurk Peasant and Donator

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    Yes but we were talking about PvP. So it takes me 9 weeks play time to get to exalted instead of 10. Whoopee. You're telling me you wouldn't rather have a mana drain and AoE silence regardless of which class you were playing? Please. (Not to mention Warstomp, WoTF, stun resistance, etc. ALL of which have more utility than diplomacy.)

    Dreanei DO get healing, which I like. Makes me wish I could switch races, I think a mage with healing powers (albeit limited) would be interesting.
     
  13. Lurk

    Lurk Peasant and Donator

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    This is nothing new. :p
     
  14. Autolycus

    Autolycus Forum Moderator

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    so diplomacy doesnt work in pvp, you're on a pve server. battlegrounds arent pvp, they're goofy mario party minigames with a rep grind. (rep!)

    i'm pretty sure beastslaying, +5 thrown weapons, and +15 herbalism dont work in pvp.

    Why didn't you mention perception?

    If you like the blood elf racials so much, reroll!
     
  15. Lurk

    Lurk Peasant and Donator

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    Nor does +15 engineering or +15 jewelcrafting. What's your point?

    Okay let's talk about Perception. It works against only 2 classes. And since it has a three minute cooldown it's usable ONLY IF YOU ALREADY KNOW THEY ARE THERE. When do I find out they are there? Usually after the 1.5k Ambush crit. Perception does a fat lot of good then.

    I have better success exposing rogues with AoE. Oh yeah, Horde mages can do that too, and they don't have Perception. Make Perception a passive increase in stealth detection and we'll talk.

    Warstomp works against all classes, AND has a shorter cooldown. Arcane Torrent will likely be similar.

    I may. The point is Horde are getting yet another PvP friendly racial.

    No I don't think PvP is terribly imbalanced, but against equally matched players the Horde racials are an edge.
     
  16. Autolycus

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    a situational racial ability, what were they thinking! you might not use it as often as you think you'd use a warstomp, but i bet it's ruined some poor rogues day more than once when you've used it.

    arcane torrent is just a weaker warstomp that only works on spellcasters.
     
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    Wulf MSC Knight and Donator

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    Also, since it seems the alliance don't realize this... When a Tauren warstomps, they can't attack for nearly the entire duration of the stun. But yeah its useful. Useful in getting someone off the flag once a round :P
     
  18. Lurk

    Lurk Peasant and Donator

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    Okay that's a true story. I make it a habit of ruining as many rogues' days as I can. I always wonder what their reaction is when they think they're being all sneaky and then BOOM!... Sheeped with a big fat Pyroblast on the way and nothing to do but sit there and take it in the face.

    I'm aware of how Warstomp works. Once a round? Even if there's only one Tauren on the team (rare), AB matches last longer than the 2 minute cooldown unless it's a 5-cap steamroll (where racials don't matter much either way). I'm pretty sure it comes in handy in AB quite a bit. I've been on the receiving end of it enough to know that.
     
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    Wulf MSC Knight and Donator

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    I say once a round, since every AB i've been in, we win with a five cap in 3 minutes :P
     
  20. Lurk

    Lurk Peasant and Donator

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    Oh well excuuuuuse me. :p

    Must be all those Tier 3 epics you guys are sporting. My dog could win with that gear. :D
     

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