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  1. kraahl

    kraahl Peasant

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    For several months now I´ve experienced severe problems with my mac. A few months ago we sent in our comp to the place we bought it planning to use our AppleCare warranty.
    Thay said it was a software error and gave us a bill. After that the problems remained. I get constant HD errors and constant freezes. I reformatted the drive 2-3 weeks ago and I have gotten errors not repariable by Disk First Aid twice. TechTool deluxe on the AppleCare cd fixes the errors not D.F.A can not but there´re still errors remaining.
    D.F.A claims to be able to repair them but after repairing once you get other errors and repairing a few times more will get you the error you began with.
    With TechTool you can repair how many tiems youo want, it says it has repaired them, but if you run it again it still need to repair.
    When dowloading files from the internet I often get corrupt files. I get errors in .sit files etc. etc. Disk Images seem to work somewhat but not 100%.

    Now comes the question, is this a hardware error with the HD and should I replace it or do you think it´s a problem with my software?
     
  2. kraahl

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    It´s an iMac/350 with 192MB RAM OS 9.2 and a 7GB HD
     
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    Get a new HDD.
     
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    Some people practically give away 7GB drives now and larger volumes have never been better $$$-wise.

    If there's another place that services Macs then take it to them. They can repair it for you since you have Applecare. They might not give you crap.
     
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  5. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    what are the error messages?
     
  6. kraahl

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    Right now there´s this:
    Checking disk “Macintosh HD”.
    Checking "Mac OS Standard" volume structures.
    Checking wrapper System file.
    Checking "Mac OS Extended" volume structures.
    Checking for locked volume name.
    Checking extent BTree.
    Checking extent file.
    Checking catalog BTree.
    Checking catalog file.
    Problem: Missing directory record, 4730803, 804
    Problem: MountCheck found minor errors.
    Checking catalog hierarchy.
    Problem: Invalid volume directory count, 2, 1
    Problem: Invalid volume file count, 2, 1
    Checking volume bit map.
    Problem: Volume Bit Map needs minor repair, 4, 33
    Checking volume info.
    Problem: Volume Header needs minor repair, 1, 0
    The volume “Macintosh HD” needs to be repaired.
     
  7. kraahl

    kraahl Peasant

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    Disk First Aid won´t repair the disk becaus eof "internal error" right now
     
  8. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    end of file error? hmm. well, one way to know if it's a hardware or software problem is the do a low level format / zero all data. you should also try norton utilities.
     
  9. cowofwar

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    Use Norton DiscDoctor.
     
  10. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    like i said :p
     
  11. kraahl

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    So if I reformat the drive with the Zero all data option I will know if it´s a hardware error? I think I read something about it somewere else, something about "bad blocks" and not enough good blocks.
    I think I`ll try that.

    I´ve got an iMac rev A lying around, could I use the HDD from it? My economy is a bit strained at the moment.
     
  12. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    you might be able to use the rev A HDD. what model is the problem computer?

    bad blocks are a sign of the drive dying. when you do a low level format / zero all data on a drive and it encounters a bad block it will "flag" that block so that data will not be written to it. so a format may fix the problem temporarily, but if you keep getting more and more bad blocks then you should replace the HDD.

    if bad blocks are causing your data corruption then it's a hardware problem and should be covered if you have any kind of warranty on it.
     
  13. kraahl

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    It´s and iMac/350 (slot loading) low-end ****.
     
  14. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    it might work... it should, i would think
     
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    What´s the difference between low-level foramt and zero all data. I opened drive setup to see what options were available and they were both there. I could only select zero all data, low-level format was grey.
     
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    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    they are basically the same thing, but low level format is only available on very small drives because it takes forever. for example, you should be able to low level your 4GB drive from the Rev A iMac.

    just do the "zero all data" if that's all there is.

    of course, this will erase all data on the drive... just making sure you know this.
     
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    Never assume. I knew that but thanks anyway...
     
  18. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    that's my line! :p
     
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    Ok everybody, this is phucked up! I did a "zero all data"-format it said nothing about bad blocks and the when checking "Macintosh HD" it was at the size of 6.99 GB. (it might´ve been bigger when we bought the comp, I don´t know)
    In drive setup you can do some sort of test which scans for bad blocks, it found nothing.
    Right after the reformat I ran Disk First Aid, it found a wrapper-file error. Clicking repair fixed it.
    What is wrong with this phucking computer? Is it a software error? In a few days a can guarantee that I will start getting disk-errors again.
    Is something wrong with my OS9 install cds, can they be causing the trouble?
    I CAN´T TAKE THIS ANY LONGER!
     
  20. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    most likely possibilities:

    1. bad hard drive
    2. bad ram (i have seen bad ram cause stuff like this before.
    3. bad install cd (but not very likely IMO)
     

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