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Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by DunAzrael, Aug 27, 2002.

  1. DunAzrael

    DunAzrael Peasant

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    Some more "why you should hate george w. bush and america posts"

    ****in cops, ****in ashcroft. Bah.

    http://www.disinfo.com/pages/article/id2582/pg1/

    http://www.disinfo.com/pages/news/id2620/pg1/

    http://www.disinfo.com/pages/article/id2621/pg1/

    http://www.disinfo.com/pages/article/id2590/pg1/

    http://www.disinfo.com/pages/article/id2628/pg1/


    With my next comment I am assuming we are all somewhat educated and not just babbling gamers. ;)

    Under the declaration of independence, which has been changed vagrantly since it's creation in 1776, Jefferson adopted John Lockes theories of the state of nature. In this he said that not only is it the right of the citiziens of the state of nature to abolish or change the government as they see fit, but their duty to the state of nature.

    I say it is time to oust bush, cheney and ashcroft, their republican rhetoric has gone too far. Drop bush not bombs!

    I am going to washington to protest at the justice department on the 13th of september, watch for me on the news. I will have a big sign that says drop bush not bombs on one side and a **** bush on the back. Nothing like some anti-american Notariaty to start your day off with a bang. I won't apologize if I have offended anyone here, because I am right, america is a ****ed up nation, partly because of the leaders, but mostly because of the attitudes of her people. For the majority americans, killing sadaam and everyone else in iraq would be as simple as going to the grocery store, but not me. americans are a bunch of capilalist pigs who can't see their own nose through the haze of arrogance. Don't fly those stars and stripes for me............
     
  2. Haite

    Haite Forum Moderator

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    I could provide you with a video in which Sadaam sat in front of the old Iraqi government and calmly announced his change of rulership. He proceeded to ask those present to, if tapped on the shoulder, calmly walk outside. Those indicated were summarily shot by a firing squad. I suppose we should turn a cheak, but I myself would risk a slap in standing up to such action.

    //edit: I'll agree I'm not fond of Ashcroft, that "internment camp" plan I'm a bit skeptical of, maybe it received "little media coverage" for a reason (as in, there wasn't anything to cover...?)
     
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  3. Strader

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    Yeah. k thx
     
  4. BaleFire

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    If there is a video of that then wouldnt it be better to just to lock him away. Instead of killing lots people by going to war. going to war will get U.S. soldiers killed, Iraqi soldiers killed and innoccent Iraqi civilians killed. All just to get rid of one man. It would make more sense to just get rid of him instead of starting a war.
     
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    Make it look like suicide so he's not avenged.
     
  6. Haite

    Haite Forum Moderator

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    Problem is we can't find him. Besides, that wouldn't remove his government.
     
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    we need to bomb some jesus into em! :yeah:
     
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    Or maybe drop thousands of naked pictures of western women until they kill their leader and become democratic. :p
     
  9. mud

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    Or, how about this, we just leave them alone.

    And while maybe a majority of Americans are dumb capitilist catholic patriotic people, they also happen to be the ones who protest and speak their voice the least. I work at Congressman Tom Udall's office and we get hundreds of calls daily saying dont bomb Iraq, even more in letters, no ne calls in support.
     
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    They could miss and hit Jake's backyard instead with the deadly barrage of pornography! :wave:
     
  11. DunAzrael

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    I agree with mud.
     
  12. Strader

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    I think they shouldn't bomb them but leaving them alone might be bad too. There is a decent possibility of them eventually using chemical or bio weapons. Saddam has used them on his people before. Whatever they decide, I always prefer the more peaceful solution.

    Edit: So long as it works.
     
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  13. Haite

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    I'd like least of all to make this debate personal, but you're using my religion in a derogatory descriptive (and notably incorrect, given that Protestant religions are the majority in America) manner. Perhaps you could reword?
     
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    Fine, Ill change catholic to lets say misguided relegious fanatic. Oh BTW, how is it used in a derogatory sense? Pariotic isnt, nor is capatlist, dumb is.
     
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    Haite Forum Moderator

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    On the subject of leaving "it", or "them", alone, I'd like to know on what grounds you say we should? That we were left alone to rebell 226 years ago? That we should practice non-interference? That just because we can do a thing that we not necessarily must do a thing? I say we don't have that luxury. We could, as you suggest, turn away and let events unfold on their own. I say that is selfish. We have the power to effect change, let us not waste it. I cannot watch as others suffer under a repressive regime of inequality. We are here now, we can do something. It would be incompassionate to not. Is Afghanistan not democratic now because of us? Are its citizens not enjoying greater equality because of us?

    Now to break the calm mood of my above post, here's another rather graphic factoid for you, 80,000,000 women in the third world have had their clitorises forcibly removed to reduce sexual pleasure and assumably stop them cheating on their husbands. We have the power to stop that from happening to another young woman, or girl, yet we don't. Who is more wrong?
     
  16. mud

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    Why do you think the middle-east hates us already? They dont want us in there, and if we go in there than we are going to lose lives of some US soldiers and just piss off every arab country even more. Since when is it our right ot go into another country and tell them what is good for them. That just doesn't work.
     
  17. Jakeman

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    same with guys over here. what's your point? it's like traditional and stuff.
     
  18. Haite

    Haite Forum Moderator

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    Circumcision's hygenic... lowers instances of cancer, it's like having an appendix or tonsils out, you don't need them and it helps.
     
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    Cancer? Ok, maybe i missed a sex ed class, but please, refresh my memory.
     
  20. Jakeman

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    it's not more hygenic and it reduces sexual pleasure for men. people get cancer on their foreskin?
     

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