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Apple should have made OS X with the Classic GUI

Discussion in 'Mac' started by Jakeman, Jun 4, 2001.

  1. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    GAWD that would rock! All the power of OS X's core (minus the Quartz) but using OS 9's GUI. I would like this much better. You?
     
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    Most definately. This aqua crap is bullshit.
     
  3. zxcvbnm

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    I would think that someone will do it eventually. Theres always some crazy person with a huge amount of time that wants to do stuff like that.
     
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    I'd love to see that happen.
     
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    Agreed. The only time i've used OS X it lost my email :(

    But honestly, the new GUI is pretty, and i love seeing screen shots of it, but i hate using it. It's not practical if you plan on getting any work done. I'd much rather see the power of OS X go into the GUI of OS 9 than Aqua.
     
  6. Jakeman

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    A skin of classic!
     
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    You and 95% of the Mac using world. I have a feeling if it was gonna happen, it would have by now. :(
     
  9. Jakeman

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    while i was using the beta I put up with the non-responsiveness of aqua. the functionality was always less than that of OS 9. I sent feedback a few times telling them that. I always expected that finder responsiveness would be greatly increased in the final version which would help with functionality.
     
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    I let 'em know to :)
     
  11. Keeksy

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    I disagree

    Hey! Give Aqua a chance. It's still in its infant stages. Aqua is Apple's first major GUI revision since the original Mac OS. Aqua simply needs time to mature. It has improved a lot since beta and continually being refined. Give Apple feedback on how to improve Aqua. Don't ask them to get rid of it. Aqua is the future, and it will improve to the same degree that the original OS did on its way to version 9. Trust me. :)
     
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    I'm siding with Keeksy, when Apple introduced the Macintosh, all the older users, that were used to their Apple II's, despised the dumping of their classic operating system. Given time the Macintosh improved into what it is today. I think Apple scrapping the old OS and forging ahead is what they're all about, it's what they're built upon, and it's why us Mac users are the elite 5% of the computer using world. This just happens to be the big computer change of our generation, and in ten years our kids can bitch about Apple getting rid of aqua for a new interface then :). I mean seriously, my Dad laughs when he looks at everyone angry over OS X, and then lectures me about his old Apple II with his RAMFast, old 1200 (or whatever it was) BPS Modem, and all his other wonderful peripherals.

    --Haite
     
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    Well Aqua is fine and dandy. Just hurry up your ass Apple and make it faster!
     
  14. Jakeman

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    they should call it molasses. :laugh:
     
  15. Keeksy

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    Whatever...

    Speed should improve once Puma is released, but Quartz calculations will still be done in software. You'll have to wait until ATI or nVidia releases a card with Quartz acceleration before any huge gains are made. The Classic GUI suffered from the same problem when it was first adopted. It's no big deal. ATI even says its next card will support Quartz, so you need not wait long. Besides, Quartz is superior to any other 2D-scheme whether rendered in software or not. It simply looks incredible. Stop complaining and let Apple do its work. ;)
     
  16. Jakeman

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    ah, that makes sense. Classic has hardware acceleration. Quartz is new and doesn't have that advantage.

    Is that a matter of video card driver support or actual hardware support in the physical graphics card?

    He knows his shit! :D
     
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    Cards without Quartz acceleration must rely on the CPU to tell them what to draw. Drivers must be rewritten to account for this. This is why some cards still don’t work with Mac OS X. Their drivers aren’t Quartz ready. So, unless cards have Quartz functions built in, the CPU ends up doing all the work. This is why the Voodoo3 had such awful 2D. It didn’t have native QuickTime support. The drivers told the CPU to handle 2D calculations resulting in slow downs. Then again, the Voodoo3 wasn’t meant to run on a Mac. Hope this answers your question. :)
     
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    Radeon 2.. built in quartz... sweeeeet
     
  19. Jakeman

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    I wonder what nVidia card will have quartz support?
     
  20. zxcvbnm

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    Maybe their next version of the GeForce 3. i would think that would be an important thing in the mac market.
     

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