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Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Jedsia, May 31, 2003.

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  1. Jedsia

    Jedsia Peasant

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    These debates are getting out of hand. I admit I'm as guilty as the next. But I think we need to cool down a bit, and maybe not discuss issues that create this enviroment of constant debate.

    We all know Religion and Politics are sensitive subjects. Maybe we should all try to refrain from including them into everyday topics.

    It's summer, let's have some fun. I'm not saying we shouldn't discuss issues intelligently, but lately all the threads are turning into virtual battlefields. I'll promise to lighten up, and I just ask we all think about it for a minute. Not saying we shouldn't debate at all. Just maybe the way we are going about it.

    Anyway, that's my rant. If I've offended anyone in the past, I'm sorry and if I've taken things too personally or emotionally, well again I apologize.
     
  2. kraahl

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    Nothing anyone here said has really offended me, so don´t worry about that. I do however get frustrated sometimes...

    I think the debates can be kinda fun.
     
  3. Haite

    Haite Forum Moderator

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    Not prudent in a gaming clan.
     
  4. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    My observation is that it's mostly you two keeping the debates going (going where, I don't know). If you guys are tired of debating I will just lock the debate threads, otherwise you can always just ignore eachother. ;)

    Seriously, kraahl is very opinionated. Kraahl states an opinion (usually not a very well supported one) and you guys try to debate it with fact. That kind of debate is an endless one.
     
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    /me waits for this to turn into a debate about debates
     
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    :nod:

    There are boards just for debates.
     
  7. kraahl

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    It is my belief that my opinions have foundations in the material world. My opinions are supported by facts. Weather you choose to accept my fact is your problem. I´m a bit bad at providing facts in the forms of links etc. etc. I get most of my facts from swedish sources and they are thus in swedish.

    Let´s take the so called "death camps" debate.

    I open by quoting an article. Facts.

    The response I get is "the terrorists are scum, they deserve death" Opinions.

    I say that a free country cannot execute people without the right to appeal etc. etc. Opinion.

    I say that they are POWs, you say they aren´t. Opinions.

    The rest is opinions. I begun with facts. My opinions are based in facts. Can you say the same? Does crime drop with capital punishment? No, it doesn´t.
     
  8. kraahl

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    Perhaps I should emigrate, but I like you guys so much. :nya:
     
  9. Beeble

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    I wish the feeling was mutual ;)
     
  10. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    Opinion vs opinion is worse that opinion vs fact or fact vs opinion.

    Any way you split it up, the debates you have never go anywhere... they only serve to aggravate people and take away from the forum atmosphere.
     
  11. kraahl

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    You say my opinions are not well supported. Give me examples. Enlighten me.

    You are right in that the debates never lead anywere, is that all my fault?

    Would you rather have a forum where the only debates are weather Bungie is a sellout or not?
     
  12. Jakeman

    Jakeman MSC Founder and Donator

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    Now this thread is going nowhere.
     
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